Curse

Chaz_Fox · Jul 23, 2006, 06:15 PM // 18:15

Yesterday, during my 4th or so attempt at Thirsty River left me quite frustrated. Not because we lost near the end, not because i kept dying constantly and had max DP, but because of a stupid PUG. I dislike Pick Up Groups, but being a monk i depend on them to get through missions. Anywho we were killing sand giants to raise our morale, and three of us die at one point, including me. i hadn't noticed for a bit, but one person (the leader of our group) had been resurrected. someone had used a res sig on someone else other than me. After realising this, i asked why the guy ressed the leader instead of me. the guy replied 'because he's cool

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I could have strangled him if i knew where he lived.

please remember folks; if multiple people die, and the monk's one of em: Res the monk. Not the leader, or the person you think is coolest. The monk has resurrection capabilities that don't require a morale boost, so he can resurrect everyone else including the leader/person you think rawks.

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I did eventually manage to tackle Thirsty River, with the help of my guild leader (another monk) and a far better PUG (far more strategic, knew exactly what they were doing, were wise enough to take two monks, unlike most of the other groups who depended solely on one monk (me))

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Former Ruling · Jul 23, 2006, 06:24 PM // 18:24

I feel the pain of stupid people in the game from time to time too :\

I just yesterday vented over the same idiocy in the pve tombs.

Rahl · Jul 23, 2006, 06:25 PM // 18:25

Yeah, I get plenty of groups like that. But a tip on TR, GET A DOM MESMER! It will be so damn easy if you do.

Chaz_Fox · Jul 23, 2006, 06:27 PM // 18:27

ah, so you've seen a similar incident where the monk is ignored in favour of the most popular member of the group. indeed, we need to get this idea into their thick skulls: The monk is vital. ^.^

Chaz_Fox · Jul 23, 2006, 06:29 PM // 18:29

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Originally Posted by Rahl

But a tip on TR, GET A DOM MESMER! It will be so damn easy if you do.

again, the group that helped me get through TR had a Dom Mesmer, so like i say, not all PUGs are bad, just highly uncooperative at times.

Rahl · Jul 23, 2006, 06:29 PM // 18:29

Yep, the warrior like to res eachother instead of the monks.../sigh

Dunno, some sort of "warrior bonding" thing I guess ^^

Balance · Jul 23, 2006, 06:30 PM // 18:30

I see where you're coming from. nice to point all of this out but 2 monks isn't really necessary, in fact its been done perfectly fine w/o a monk..

Rent · Jul 23, 2006, 06:32 PM // 18:32

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Guild: UK Furry Alliance [UKFA]

Sorry I tried to read your post but all I could see is this and not stop laughing.

Amity and Truth · Jul 23, 2006, 06:38 PM // 18:38

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Originally Posted by Chaz_Fox

I dislike Pick Up Groups

hmmm, from reading that post i can only guess that you treat them the same way you write over them here.

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someone had used a res sig on someone else other than me.

And that even proves my point.

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the guy replied 'because he's cool

Which leads to this quote. Could it simply be that you were unloading your frustration on your team and for that same reason they did not want to res you? Mind you, Monk is NOT the most important. I don't know if this was the case but from reading your post i've got the impression that you're taking the game way too serious and were probably flaming your team. After which i would have ressed everyone, except you. As even the monk is not invaluable.

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please remember folks; if multiple people die, and the monk's one of em: Res the monk. Not the leader, or the person you think is coolest.

Actually, that's wrong. Res the person that could save the mission and not the monk just because he is a monk. He is just playing a role just like every other class as well. If the Teamleader actually led the team, it would make a whole lot more sense to ressurect him first. Who do you want more to be protected in an imaginary battle? Your commander or the medic? Once again i wasn't there.

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were wise enough to take two monks, unlike most of the other groups who depended solely on one monk (me))

Meh. A good monk and a mediocre team is all you need to complete these missions, even the game. However, i remember that there is a thread of monks that feel they're not appreciated enough. Should be called something like "Sick and tired of the Monk Abuse" and is filled with Monkplayers who share their evil fate.

And if this is not about Monks not being the total superstars but moreover about a group of people not behaving correctly, you could also use this thread:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=69723

Sorry if my words sound harsh, they're not intended to. But i'm getting sick and tired of monks that think they should be treated differently

Chaz_Fox · Jul 23, 2006, 06:38 PM // 18:38

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Originally Posted by Rent

Sorry I tried to read your post but all I could see is this and not stop laughing.

if you don't have anything on topic to post, please don't post at all. This is a post about how idiotic players are, not 'diss the poster cause his guild says 'furry''

Chaz_Fox · Jul 23, 2006, 06:44 PM // 18:44

Amity and Truth, you do have a very good point there. indeed, i was not flaming my team, the only thing i said on the matter was that if i had been resurrected instead of the leader i could quickly have resurrected the leader AND the other dead person without a fuss. I did get resurrected in the end (luckily we were fighitng sand giants so morale boosts came fast) and managed to resurrect the other people. i also get what you're saying about the Monk not being the superstar of the group, the offensive groups (warriors, eles, dom mesmers etc) are obviously the most important part pf the team, whereas the monk is merely the support who will easily pick the others up if they fall. So yes, you have indeed proved your point ^.^

Ensign · Jul 23, 2006, 06:45 PM // 18:45

The proper question when joining a pug is not 'is there an idiot in this group?', but 'how many idiots are in this group?'

Pugging is a bit of a game, enjoyable for many of the same reasons people enjoy watching cars crash. How terrible can these players really be? They will surprise you. It's frustrating as hell if you actually need the pug to clear the mission, but if you're just coming as a tourist, it's a highly amusing, albeit base, form of entertainment.

Peace,
-CxE

Count to Potato · Jul 23, 2006, 06:51 PM // 18:51

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Originally Posted by Ensign

The proper question when joining a pug is not 'is there an idiot in this group?', but 'how many idiots are in this group?'

Actually its more like the Spaceballs qoute how man ***holes are on this ship?

Chaz_Fox · Jul 23, 2006, 06:54 PM // 18:54

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Originally Posted by Ensign

The proper question when joining a pug is not 'is there an idiot in this group?', but 'how many idiots are in this group?'

Pugging is a bit of a game, enjoyable for many of the same reasons people enjoy watching cars crash. How terrible can these players really be? They will surprise you. It's frustrating as hell if you actually need the pug to clear the mission, but if you're just coming as a tourist, it's a highly amusing, albeit base, form of entertainment.

Peace,
-CxE

well ok, i needed the PUG to clear the mission that time round, but you know i think i might actually try pugging the mission again, just for laughs ^.^ thanks for mentioning this, i never really knew some people pugged missions for laughs but it sounds cool ^.^

Minus Sign · Jul 23, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56

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Originally Posted by Chaz_Fox

please remember folks; if multiple people die, and the monk's one of em: Res the monk. Not the leader, or the person you think is coolest. The monk has resurrection capabilities that don't require a morale boost, so he can resurrect everyone else including the leader/person you think rawks.

Not always so. There are monks that do NOT carry rez; they carry an extra heal/prot to further boost their support. i've done it myself a few time, but I tell my group that I am.

if you're down and you have a hard rez, tell your group:

Monk: I have rebirth

That usually will elicite a sig hit since you can corpse-pull the team out of the trouble spot. One other thing that strikes me about your /rant:

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After realising this, i asked why the guy ressed the leader instead of me. the guy replied 'because he's cool

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Alienate players at your own peril. Were you pulling the "I am healzors so listen to me or die" crap that too many monks have become guilty of? My posts on the subject may make me come off as a hardcase when I monk (and yes, I do practice what I preach) the truth is that I am nothing but respectful to my teams, no matter the proffession I play. While I offer suggestions when I can and ask for a regen in bad teams as much to compose myself as much to regen my overstretched mana, i do not flame people in mission and try to be the voice of reason when these little disputes start. I wait until after the mission for that, when I do.

If the leader was cool enough to merit a rez, and you weren't, it may very well be because you were being a jerk. Post-Factions, I've seen this too. With few monks in Tyria, groups have learned to self-manage when they PuG or wait until guildies can help. Regardless, welcome to a brave new world. The one where your monk is not required, just useful to have.

Chaz_Fox · Jul 23, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05

nope, i wasn't saying that i rule or anything, i've realised now that i was probably silly to question why they ressed the leader rather than me, for two reasons:
1) We were fighting sand giants, which means they would be getting lots of morale boosts, which means they could res me at a later date, and
2) they were going to the cutscene area anyway, which meant i would be instantly ressed afterwards.

so i realised i was probably wrong to rant ^.^;

SaGGGan · Jul 23, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05

Res the person who can res the next person if more then one player is down.

In thirsty river you get so much morale boosts, that a spended res signet is no problem.

Silent Kitty · Jul 23, 2006, 07:47 PM // 19:47

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Originally Posted by Chaz_Fox

please remember folks; if multiple people die, and the monk's one of em: Res the monk. Not the leader, or the person you think is coolest. The monk has resurrection capabilities that don't require a morale boost, so he can resurrect everyone else including the leader/person you think rawks.

Not all monks have a rez. Some of them are so full of themselves, that they think they don't need one. Lol, some healers even think that only breeze is needed.

Liu · Jul 23, 2006, 07:47 PM // 19:47

Well monks can be fairly annoying. Its not nice to spend ten minutes looking for one to find out he/she is using frenzy just to attack faster with his/her staff and was using a healing signet to heal herself. Even though she had healing skills.

I don't know either.

huMptY DumPty · Jul 23, 2006, 08:18 PM // 20:18

Biggest idiots in guild wars (likely) = those who don't carry rez.

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